Hi!
At that time he was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy/CHF and arrhythmias. He thinks he’s had the arrhythmias at least since high school. One day he believes he’ll live to be 80, the next day he thinks he’s dying right now. I’m having trouble getting clear answers from his cardiologist – just “you’re sicker than you think you are” – so I don’t know what to expect.
How do people cope with this?

Hi, I’m Patricia. I am in my 40′s and not believing all this is happening to me just these last few years when I’d always thot of my self as moderately healthy and active. I have reumatiod arthritus, sleep apnea, only a percentage of my lungs function and now my heart. The Dr. tells me it is dangerously overworked and I have at the most 9 years. Jeese!

There has to be more I can do. I have to lose weight. I really thot it would be easier with MY LIFE as a motivating factor, but it’s not! I would like to find out more about Dean Ornish’s heart diet. If anyone has been on it. And mor about the various suppliments and oils. Have been studuing them, but am hoping for some personal experiences.

I’ll stop now (I hear sighs of relief!) before I talk everyone’s ear off.

Thanks for the listen!
Pat M

I signed on because I was told after an EKG that I had had an anterior infarction…. I am scheduled for a stress test in about 1 week.

I am doing my research as I am barely 42 and was in denial for some time over this. I have ignored the symptoms becasue I had in my twenties had what I call “spasms” or something and I was told these were not abnormal….so as I have gotten older and they became more frequent ( now read daily frequently) I ignored this…….until a couple months back when I woke up having chest pain and left arm pain. ( not severe and it stopped after a few minutes)

Still I said nothing and scheduled a routine Physical and the Dr. did an EKG .

So now I am trying to learn all I can ( a little late since I was in denial for so long).
A little stressed as well. I have child still at home and we homeschool….so I can’t afford to drop dead!

anyway glad I found this list

kathy

Hi Sue, well, I’m not a person with a whole lot of confidence about my health, nor do I know what your husband’s doctor meant by “not the whole story,” since of course I’ve not seen my doctor until next week, but, good heavens, I sure hope that my doctor is not such a confidence tearer-downer as your person might be. Don’t they teach “positive thinking” or “Bedside manner” any more? (I see that locally, too.)

I don’t have any secret way of doing things, but I will say this much: I eat very healthy stuff, hardly any chicken, mostly tuna but mostly salmon; lots of veggies and some fruits –cutting down on the sweets is hard for me; and bread, which i love, but don’t eat with anything on it.

It may well be that there are so many factors involving heart disease that the reality is that a person such as yours truly doesn’t know what to do except in a general way. Vitamins, supplements, healthy eating, exercise, and, then, my problem, how to keep positive, by napping (when I even don’t need to) or meditating.

Changing lifestyle from full-time work to part-time/new retiree wasn’t a bad idea, either.

So, don’t know if I helped out with my response, but my knowledge of the cardio scan is quite limited although you can imagine that the 8.3 score was a magic ego positive thinking booster. Now, if my HDLs would go up to 40-45… (but when they are at 115 with LDLs of 38, I guess that’s kinda hard to get to, supplements or no….)

Take care, and, by the way, you might want to call up a scan place for info.
pg

Although my
husband doesnt do much on the computer, I will show him your post by printing it and the previous post you included from last Sept.

My husband, age 62, had a heart attack in Feb 2000 with subsequent application of a coronary stent. Within 6 months, he needed an additional stent to repair restenosis where the first was applied. We feel fairly certain that the irritation of the 1st application caused the rapid restenosis. It is now almost 6 months since the 2nd stent and he is to go in for a follow up. He has been on the Rexall vascular supplements, the cellular essentials and the fiber drink for about 6 weeks.

It was very interesting to see your report as generated by the “rapid CT”.
My husbands cardiologist did not recommend that test as he said the detection of the calcium component in the plaque did not give a full picture of the problems that might exist. From your experience with the scan, do you feel confident of the results from the scan? My hus. would appreciate any confidence builders at this point. He has been very good about taking all the supplements ( in a multiplied dosage for the first 3- 6 months) and is “feeling” better – more energy and no pain upon exertion but of course we would really like to have some “concrete” data to encourage him.

I certainly hope that the several young women who have posted on this site during the past several months are reading your message and will at least try the methods used by you and many others who have not left messages on this site so that they can get well!!

Thanks again for sharing your experiences!

Sue W.

Good Morning to you all, i’ve kept this post forever, it seems (5 months), and wanted to share with you some of my own info that may have something to do with the “quest” for unclogged arteries.

Last Monday, 3/12, I had a cardio scan scoring down locally, my own pocket, $400, and just yesterday got my scores back: The total was 8.3 (eight point three). The scoring guidelines ranged from zero to four hundred ( 0 to 400).

My personal results: L. Main and LAD 4.3
Circumflex .4
R. Coronary 3.6 TOtal: 8.3

The “plaque burden” minimal identifiable plaque Risk category: ” low”
Probability of Significant CAD” ” unlikely.”

So, to me, this is excellent news (I had an angioplasty on 1/21/98, have been a basket case mentally ever since), and perhaps proves that a very low fat diet, no red meat, only occasional chicken, lots of salmon and tuna–can help, though my HDL seems forever low, despite supplements–could that be genes…?

Anyway, my latest cholesterol test showed 115 total, with LDL of 38, and HDL of 31, but my orange juice drinking of 3 months kicked up my triglyceride level from 86 in December to 233 in March… (so I’ve quit drinking OJ for the time being, and will re-test this week).

Conclusions to draw: one, exercise even when I don’t like it; two, be strict (and hope that I can kick my sugar habit–cake, cookies, lots of fruit), three, seek help from any/every reputable area.

Love to hear reactions/advice from you on these matters, and appreciate the time Ray took to visit with me on the matter of HDL this past summer!

Best for all, Paul

I’m Dr. Wayne Moss, a retired General, Chest and Trauma Surgeon in Denver, Colorado.

I’ve had wonderful results from many of Rexall’s breakthrough cutting-edge preventive healthcare and anti-aging products, but I consider Cellular Essentials and Vascular Complete to be the most rewarding to me personally. I ve had a proven personal reversal of the atherosclerosis of my coronary artery vessels over a twelve-month period of time taking these products. This was proven by before and after Ultra-fast C.T. Scans.

The Ultra-fast C.T. Scans showed a reversal from 24 lesions to l3 lesions and a decrease in the calcium volume in my coronary arteries from 368 cubic millimeters to 308 after taking these products for l2 months. The medical director said the following in his interpretation of my heart scan: Very strikingly you have achieved what can be considered a reversal of heart disease over the past year. Specifically, you have much fewer lesions since last year and an improvement in calcium volume score.

I’m sure you have all heard of Linus Pauling, a two-time Nobel Prize Laureate. In 1994, he co-authored and was given a monumental patent for the prevention and treatment of coronary artery disease without surgery.

Cellular Essentials and Vascular Complete have been formulated from this patented technology.

I’m not sure what you mean about fluid around the heart. If there is a lot of damage you can have congestive heart failure which would cause fluid to back up in the lungs. She would also have edema in her extremeties. If it is heart damage, there is a new procedure where they actually remove the damaged portion making the heart a smaller and more effective pump. The best she can do with diet is very low fat, high vegetable intake, judicious exercise and weight loss. The heart muscle that is damaged won’t regenerate so anything you can do to reduce the workload will improve her situation.

susan p.

I
beleive in the medical profession for which i have been trained for. Some folks through no fault of their own have acquired the disease.
Not everything is black and white. I got it with no family back ground nor did i have a back ground. I am not over wt, never smoked and always watched my fat intake. So we are not all the same. I always exercised too. my point is, we are different. My grand masmoked 2 packs of cigs a day never took a pill in her life and dies at the age of 100 so that just proves that we are different.It was posted earlier there are other means and i do not disagree with this.
But it has been proven just by the amts of heart pts we see daily that not everything works for everybody. I have had angiogenesis which is gene therapy and i am fine finally. It was a long road and i have available to me loads of docs and info. So… it just took awhile to get here. what i am saying is alot of folks are looking for a quick fix…. it does not happen.

Peace!! sandy

One thing to note! Italians live on Macaroni and they don’t to have heart disease.

I wonder just how much macaroni the Italians eat as compared to all the junk added to most of our USA processed food?

Maybe we have someone with an Italian connection to shed light on this.

Italians use OLIVE Oil. not trans fatty oils as we do!

Italians mostly do not have autos–they walk or bike.

I have heard also that they love green salads and other veggies.

My point is that it is necessary to consider “all” the variables; This includes the obvious popular variables, the other variables, the unheard of variables AND finally the unheard of and unsuspected variables or the water will still be quite muddy as the report is written and the report will go into the huge dry waste dump along with many other reports.

We accidentally forgot two small Salmon from last summer in our freezer, we cooked one but after one taste fed it to the Dog. The other is available send me $5 for postage and dry Ice and you may have it.

Best Regards, Lorenzo

1. Read Linus Pauling on Cancer. TWICE! (Stop eating sugar and take huge doses of vitamins!)

2. Start the Flaxseed oil and Cottage Cheese immediately; it is very low cost and a number of people seem to believe it. It is also very nutritious and we have to eat! So what can be lost? Technically it supplies n-3 or Omega 3 an essential fatty acid that is hard to get with a modern diet.

3. Find some fresh Coconuts and eat them regularly. Also buy some Virgin Coconut oil. Also cheap nutrition.

4. Eat some Sardines and some Pink or Red canned Salmon, you can rinse it with water to get rid of some of the added “cheap” salt. No fresh Salmon unless you believe it is “wild”. Copper river Salmon is on the market today (5-30-001) it is wild from Canada. Other fresh salmon is often “Pen Raised on Cornmeal!” Chum Salmon is wild. Other salmon could be wild but make the fish market prove it. Wild Salmon will be very expensive; except the canned, as it is caught and canned on factory ships in Canada and Alaska.

5. Take a Mineral Salt supplement; and use a true Sea Salt, made of seawater, on food. Seaweed is recommended but hard to find.

6. Most wild animals do not eat junk food; most wild animals do not get Cancer or other diseases of malnutrition.
Except starvation! So if you know a hunter give a hint that you would like to try a Duck or Deer dinner.

7. Get on the Internet and read about the Omega 3 oils, and the lauric (sp?) acid. It seems that it is very hard to
get the “essential oils” in our food these days learn more on www.myaccessmedical.com – cheap canadian pharmacy  (real pharmacy with online services, based in Toronto).

8. Also Search for Dr. Weston Price- read his stuff, about three times.

9. Look into “Meditation”, “Breathing” and “Imaging”.

10. Find some of the reports about cancer needing sugar to feed on; and read them several times.

Chemotherapy is a controlled poison with unfortunate results for anyone that I know—-How about you? Do you know very many friends who were cured with Chemo? It is the last resort before giving up. Linus Pauling died believing that those in the Scotch Hospital wing run by Dr. Cameron that took Vitamin C instead of Chemo lived longer and felt way better.

The non-American Countries probably do a much better job on stopping growing Cancer. One writer claims that only wealthy people in the South Sea Islands suffer from cancer as the native diet does not support Cancer.. One HIV victim took his “last” vacation to a jungle where the local food put his disease in check- he gained weight back to normal; He will be reporting further progress on the Coconut Oil site.

Dr. Albert Schweizer, the well known Missionary Doctor reported no Cancer among his African patients for twenty years. Then European food became available and the Cancer victims came along a few years later.

Was she eating processed food?
Some persons who have changed to a natural food diet. You cook it.  NO SUGAR or FLOUR.   Have gained health improvements.

Most people can not do this.

Flaxseed oil seems to make up for some missing items in our food.

Most people do not believe  in nutritious food  and will not eliminate all sugar and flour from their diet!

Regards,  Lorenzo

Hello, I have a sister who had a heart attack this pass Dec. she is 30yrs.old,they changed her diet,she is in rehab also. The problem is she as developed fluid around her heart and lungs,they have run test but the doctor can’t figure out what is wrong or why she is retaining the fluid.

She has some concerns which i can understand.If anyone can give us a little info on this it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Natural substance that is like roto rooter for heart.  What that  something posted here?  Sometimes I see things and I don’t have time  to read them.  What there something here about such a thing?

I had a ‘mild’ heart attack on June 15th. The ensuing angiogram  showed that I have one artery 99% blocked and another 90% blocked.  The consultant has told me that I have to wait 3-6 months to have  angioplasty on the 99% blocked one – which I take to mean either a  balloon or stent. Surely if I am as furred up as this would’nt a by-  pass have been a better choice? I am a 44 year old UK male.

Does anyone have personal experience with chelation for blocked  arteries?  My husband had open heart surgery almost 9 months ago with  5 by-passes and the by-passes blocked up 80 to 90% in only 7 months  after the surgery.  They then used balloon angioplasty to open the  main arteries but could do nothing about 2 new brach blockages that  are 90% blocked.  He is going to try chelation.  It would be so  helpful if anyone has tried this and can share his or her  experience.  Hopefully positive. Just discovered this site today and  do not really know how to use it but will try anyway.

Coronary artery calcification (CAC) quantitation is an emerging technology  that has come into widespread clinical use within the past several years. It can  now be performed accurately on modified conventional multidetector computed  tomographic (MDCT) scanners, which are widely available. In the past, CAC was  performed only on electron beam computed tomography (EBCT) scanners, which are  not widely available. Coronary computed tomographic arteriography (CTA) is an  experimental technique that is not yet in clinical use. This technique uses the  latest generation of spiral CT technology and MDCT scanners to noninvasively  image the coronary arteries.     Both techniques are important noninvasive imaging methods for the  identification and stratification of patients with coronary atherosclerosis and  have great potential for widespread use in the next several years. The  scientific session on coronary artery calcification that discussed these  techniques was moderated by William Stanford, MD, of the University of Iowa  Hospital and Clinics, lowa City, and Christoph R. Becker, MD, of Neuried,  Germany.       MDCT vs Sequential CT Techniques     Sandra S. Halliburton, PhD, from the Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland,  Ohio,[1] presented the initial paper, which compared coronary calcium scores  from MDCT using a spiral imaging technique to a more commonly performed and  validated sequential CT technique. Patients were examined with a MDCT scanner  using prospective electrocardiograph (ECG)-triggered sequential modes (4 mm by  2.5 mm collimation; 2.5-mm thickness) and retrospective ECG-gated spiral modes  (4 mm by 2.5 mm collimation; 3-mm thickness with no slice overlap). Data  analysis revealed that the sequential method tended to yield higher scores than  the spiral method. There was a significant difference (P < .001) between the  mean total Agatston and volume scores obtained with each technique. Of  significant concern, 8 of the 40 patients had some calcium depicted on  sequential images, whereas no calcium was depicted on spiral images. Because the  CAC score varied, the resulting percentile clinical risk rankings also differed  in 34 patients. Eleven patients had differences greater than 20%. The  researchers concluded that the MDCT acquisition technique has a significant  impact on coronary calcium scoring and the resulting risk stratification.     Use of EBCT and Single-Slice Helical CT in Calcium Scoring     Kishore C. Acharya, PhD, of GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee, Wisconsin,[2]  presented the results of a 3-center study, which compared calcium scores  obtained with both EBCT and single-slice helical CT (HCT). The HCT studies were  performed on a single-slice HCT system capable of subsecond scanning with  retrospective ECG gating. Conventional Agatston Janowitz scoring was used for  EBCT images, but a modification using a minimum lesion size of 0.25 mm2 was used  for helical scans. Results revealed that the mean, median, and standard  deviation values were similar for both EBCT and HCT. Although the quantitative  data were promising, when the individual patients were stratified to assess for  risk of coronary artery disease (CAD). there were substantial differences. All  mismatches were within 1 category, and most were underscored by HCT compared  with EBCT. The researchers stated that their results improved significantly if  the minimum Hounsfield unit (HU) density was lowered for the HCT technique,  which resulted in higher Agatston Janowitz scores that agreed better with the  EBCT.     Coronary Calcium Scoring With EBCT and ECG-Gated MDCT     B. M. Ohnesorge, PhD, from Munich University, Germany, and Siemens Medical  Systems, Inc,[3] gave the first of 4 presentations from his institution in this  session. The study focused on the interexamination reproducibility of calcium  scores when compared with EBCT. Patients were examined twice with MDCT. Data  from a separate group of patients who underwent scanning earlier with EBCT were  used for comparison. Ohnesorge and colleagues compared the variability of EBCT  and MDCT with 3-mm, nonoverlapping increments and evaluated the variability of  MDCT with overlapping increments (2, 1.5, and l mm). Results revealed that MDCT  with nonoverlapping increment showed lower variability than EBCT. The  variability of volume scoring with MDCT could be reduced with overlapping  increments. They concluded that MDCT can provide continuous volume image data  for volumetric calcium scoring with higher reproducibility than EBCT. The use of  image data with overlapping incremental results in significantly improved  reproducibility compared with nonoverlapping sequential data.       Significance of Age and Sex in CAC Progression     An interesting evaluation of the influence of sex and age on the rate of  progression of CAC scores was presented by Aletha M. Emerick, BS, of the UCLA  School of Medicine Center for Health Science, Los Angeles, California.[4] This  study compared data from 238 asymptomatic patients who had undergone 2 or more  EBCT examinations. The mean interscan interval was 25.9 months. The mean change  in CAC score between the first and last scans was 50.7, and the mean rate of  change was 2.0 units per month. Men had a much higher rate of change of CAC (2.7  for men, 1.3 for women). When grouped by age, only women in the 40- to  49-year-old age group had a significantly different rate of change in their CAC  scores (0.2) than men (0.7) (P = .04). Emerick and coworkers concluded that the  difference in rates of change in CAC score between sexes was not significant for  subjects age 50 years or older. However, in the 40- to 49-year-old age group,  the monthly rate of progression was lower in women than men. They also found  that the only risk factor for prediction of rate of change of CAC was the CAC  determined from the first EBCT study.       Multisector Reconstruction vs Single-Sector Reconstruction in Calcium Scoring     A comparison of calcium scores from a MDCT reconstructed using both  multisector reconstruction (MSR) and single-sector reconstruction (SSR)  algorithms was presented by Curtis H. Coulam, MD, of Stanford University/Lucas  MRS Imaging Center, Palo Alto, California.[5] The multisector algorithm is a  novel approach that uses only small-sector angle of projection views collected  during several cardiac cycles, which effectively reduces the temporal resolution  to 133 msec (compared with 533 msec for the SSR technique). Coulam and  associates determined that coronary blurring was more evident on the SSR images  compared with MSR. The calcium score averaged 15% less with MSR compared with  SSR (P < .05). They concluded that MSR results in significantly lower calcium  scores, improved temporal resolution, and less coronary motion blurring compared  with SSR.       Optimizing Coronary Visualization With Multislice CT     Andreas F. Kopp, MD, from the University of Tuebingen, Tuebingen, Germany,  presented his first of 3 papers on coronary CT angiography.[6] The initial paper  evaluated the use of multiple differing reconstruction time points within the RR  interval. Image quality for depiction of each of the 3 main coronary arteries  was evaluated at multiple time points to determine if each should be  reconstructed at specific points, which may differ from vessel to vessel. Image  quality was determined by review of 3 independent readers. They found that  mid-to-late diastole is the best time point for visualizing the left anterior  descending (LAD) coronary artery and circumflex artery (RCX). The right coronary  artery (RCA) is best visualized when reconstructed in early diastole. It was  concluded that an optimization of the time point for reconstruction of ECG-gated  multislice coronary CT angiography is mandatory to obtain optimal image quality.       Atherosclerotic Plaque Morphology by MDCT Compared With Intracoronary  Ultrasound     Dr. Kopp’s next presentation focused on another study by his group, which  evaluated atherosclerotic plaque morphology by MDCT and compared the results to  the “gold standard” intracoronary ultrasound (ICUS).[7] The identification of  soft plaque and stratification of its potential to rupture and cause a coronary  thrombosis is a goal that will have significant impact on the diagnosis and  treatment of coronary artery disease. This paper represents a major step in  obtaining that goal. ICUS and contrast-enhanced MDCT scans were analyzed in  patients scheduled for ICUS-guided angioplasty. One plaque was selected in each  patient, and plaque composition was defined as soft, intermediate, or calcified  according to established ICUS criteria (echogenicity) and by using HU density  measurements on MDCT. The MDCT and ICUS yielded nearly identical results  regarding plaque composition. Some plaques were only detected on CT after  reviewing the ICUS data. Nevertheless, this is an exciting result that will need  to be investigated further.       Potential of ECG-Gated Multislice Spiral CT in Visualizing Noncalcified  Atherosclerotic Plaques     Dr. Kopp’s final presentation was that of a phantom study performed to  evaluate the limitations of MDCT’s ability to differentiate among lipid-rich,  fibrous, and calcified coronary plaques.[8] The study showed that noncalcified  plaques could be characterized by their mean HU values. Kopp and coworkers  determined that lipid-rich plaques could be identified with mean HU values in  the interval of -60 to 50 HU, noncalcified fibrous plaques in the interval of 50  to 120 HU, and calcified plaques at greater than 120 HU.       Assessment of Inflammation and Atherosclerotic Plaque Volume in the Coronary  Arteries     Guy J. Friedrich, MD, of University Hospital, Innsbruck, Austria, investigated  a possible link between the progression of atherosclerosis and the presence of  an active inflammatory process.[9] Friedrich and colleagues correlated the  volume of calcified plaque determined by EBCT with the serum level C-reactive  protein (CRP), a marker of active inflammation. Patients with symptomatic  coronary artery disease underwent EBCT imaging and had CRP levels measured. All  patients had an elevated coronary calcium score and 29.5% had an increase of CRP  values. However, there was no significant correlation between the level of CRP  or the CAC and clinical symptoms.     Detecting High-Grade Coronary Artery Stenoses Using Contrast-Enhanced MDCT     Toru Sakuma, MD, of Jikei University School of Medicine, Tokyo, Japan,[10]  evaluated the detectability of the high-grade coronary artery stenoses using  retrospectively ECG-gated contrast-enhanced MDCT. Results were compared to  conventional coronary angiography (CCA). Sakuma and associates used a  retrospectively ECG-gated reconstruction technique with a temporal resolution of  either 125 or 250 msec per image and reconstruction thickness of 1.25 mm. Image  analysis was compared with CCA as the “gold standard.” Coronary artery stenoses  were present in 19 of 96 anatomic segments using CCA. Fourteen of the 19  stenoses were depicted on MDCT. MDCT also detected 3 false-positive stenoses.  The sensitivity of MDCT for detecting high-grade stenoses was 73.7%, and the  specificity was 96.1%.

I am glad your m in law has had successful  surgery.  However, let me ask those with stents to check in.  My Hus had HA  in Feb 2010, had stent placed, it closed with what we call “scar tissue”  from the effect of placing the stent.  With recurrence of his symptom (back  pain in the upper back), they did 2nd angiogram and found the almost  complete closure and placed another stent in the “scar tissue” and that was  over 9 months ago.  The first problem showed up just short of 6 months.  I  have seen that quite a few people have to have follow up replacement due to  stenosis.  It is successful in many.  I think that we both are glad he has  had it done despite the difficulties.

I am not jumping on you I am getting ready to write a paper concerning chronic disease so this outpouring of disconnected items will go into my file for future use.

Can’t figure out QV and the med dictionary reports.

Sorry, the term pulmanary is not in the dictionary

18 Months ago, I had a gall bladder attack; it made me so sick I just signed everything they put in front of me. After my G bladder was removed I felt fine but since I am on Medicare the ran other tests. Several pages of reports. It was mild this or that for heart, etc. Since I am 74 I am concerned although my general health is good.

I am a scientific eater; having started at age ten reading about “food” and seeking out the tastiest. at age 23 I gave up sugar and white flour. A year later I felt the results.

Few people would go to the extremes I do in food but still there are many on the internet that eat more ascetically.

Since the net became quite reliable in the last year or three I have read a great deal; now caught up on that part I am reading more library books.

Pat; medicine is starting to change. The stuff I posted is only the light at the end of the tunnel.

I am firmly convinced that high quality nutrition is vital and that without it one is in jeopardy.

the fascinating story of Richard K. Bernstein, M.D. his suffering and his success, although it is directed toward diabetes’s it is applicable to all chronic illness. Read his minibiography starting on page vi then if you are as intrigued as I was you will want to read other parts of the book; but unless you or a friend are diabetic; just skip the instructions for diabetic victims and re

ad the rest; hopefully you will be as impressed as I was.

Now for what I set out to ask!

What do you eat? How many foods that contain sugar and flour? (pasta) How much seafood. What is your approach to fats and oils; to soda’s: How much raw food do you buy raw and prepare yourself? Do you take vitamins? Many or few?

Pat; are you going to the Dr. about Vitamins and Vegetables?

In other words you are interested because you found this website. But will you change anything?

My ideas are free; but I only provide the seed; However I am interested in the results of what people eat and if they change and how they fare.

Pat I am not jumping on you I am getting ready to write a paper concerning chronic disease so this outpouring of disconnected items will go into my file for future use.

It appears that you are a “Winner”; you have taken charge of your life and diet!
On the other hand our challenger ”Sandy” is not a loser; She is still alive, like you and me! However she Repeats the “Conventional” wisdom of a low fat diet which needs be a high sugar diet!
Hi Sandy,
I, or maybe others on the list have heard your position for years and years and years; As I first heard that eggs were bad food I was only 40; Since then; as always I have eaten all the eggs and steak that I could afford; Because I suspected stupidity! Since you work daily with the A. MD establishment “We” understand; where you come from; So please be patient with those of us who do not wish to die from A. MD advice( A high sugar diet.)
Sandy,
There is another world out there with birdsongs for those who can hear them. In India, in China, in The Philippines; in other countries we hear that the “poor people” who eat “cheap” food DO NOT DIE OF our CVD and Cancer Disease, at anywhere near our rates! (Like TEN to ONE): UNTIL they get our food! (Lots of Sugar and Flour)
Sandy,
Do you have time?
Could you?
Would you?
Care to learn about the poor in other lands; what they eat; and how they get sick; and what sickness they get from their primitive diets?
And finally if you found a tribe with little CVD and little Cancer would you ignore them and the diet evidence they provide?
Is your mind completely closed to evidence that has not been provided by the prestigious American Medical Association’s that you admire and worship; or are you still alive?
“EAT RIGHT OR DIE” (From the old American “Song” –”"Root Hog or Die”"–)
Many of my friends chose to die (they kept eating high sugar diets- (They would not listen to my very simple advice) -now they are buried); Some of my relatives chose to die at 52! (They forget the food that our Mama fed them)! They chose high sugar–HIGH Carbohydrate diets ( LO FAT) to you– Sandy!
I am only 74; But I search 5 to 20 hours a week on this fabulous internet for new information on ‘WHAT TO EAT”! And I find and follow some things that you think should kill me!
I am what I eat!
If you want to be what you eat ask ME!

I am so sorry for this soap opera.  This group was designed with one  thing in mind and I am sure it is not the petty going ons with this  crap.  I am sorry that you have all had to deal with this but this  person pissed me off from the very beginning, I tried very hard to be  nice but it just kept up.  I will try and as you can see I have asked  her many times not to talk to me but she insists.  I would like to  stay in this group but I promise if things don’t slow down soon I will  back out as I do not want to ruin things for everyone.

Has anyone read this book, I started reading this and it makes sense  how the author states that CAD can be controlled with Vitamin B6, B12  and folic acid to control homocysteine levels,  which the author states  damages artery walls and carries LDL to those damages areas which then  causes CAD.    So while Cholesterol enables CAD, it is not the cause according to this  writing.    How can the building block of life cholesterol be the culprit I keep  wondering?

you proclaimed to have??? It causes problems to mention the dangers
of high sodium intake for those with CHF, CHD, diabetes, kidney
disease or high blood pressure??? It causes you problems that you make
insinuations or references to me in almost all of your post??
Hmmmmm……I must be missing something here. However, if it makes you
feel important to have me banned, by all means do it. My ego is not
large enough that I need to be an internet star.

There is much to learn in cardio……..we are all learning daily.
This entire generation of people are the lab specimens for it. They
will learn by trial and error just as doctors have for thousands of
years before. What they learn from this generation will benefit the
next, just as we are now the beneficiaries of the ones who came before
us. Sadly, if we are closed minded to it and think we already know
more than doctors who spends their lives in labs working on these
diseases, we will never benefit from anything except our own pride.
There are many alternative means to address cardio problems and
doctors are recognizing those too. My own lipid specialists uses
policosonol in preference to statins, not just because it can lower
cholestrol, but because it greatly reduces the inflammation in the
arteries of the legs and can increase exercise time as well as reduce
pain in them. Looks to me like they are open to learn from other
resources too. I am so sorry if my profession intimidates you or
offense you, Jennifer, but many have benefited by it. I have never
attacked you, but have been attacked by you repeatedly. I assume you
have your reasons for that, but that is your problem, not mine. I
still think you would greatly benefit by yoga, meditation or bio-feed
back. It would reduce some of the antagonism you seem to feel. It is
your cortisol and adrenalin levels though. Regardless of what you
desire, good luck to you in your quest

Stress test total time achieved 9 minutes 38 seconds. Goal was 8 minutes  flat. Test ended due to shortness of breath.  Cholesterol 298 ah ha!  Potassium low.  Sodium low. Our low sodium diet I guess was working.    She has appointment with the doctor again next week to review the results and  decide on an action plan.    Drugs prescribe yesterday    ace inhibit  beta blkr  loepressor  aspirin  Vit K  Co-Q10  Vit E  Vit C  Vit B6  Vit B12

It has been known for many years that overt biotin deficiency results in  impaired utilization of glucose (13). Blood biotin levels were significantly  lower in 43 patients with non-insulin dependent diabetes mellitus (NIDDM) than  in non-diabetic control subjects, and lower fasting blood glucose levels were  associated with higher blood biotin levels. After one month of biotin  supplementation (9 mg/day) fasting blood glucose levels decreased by an average  of 45% (14). Reductions in blood glucose levels were also found in 7  insulin-dependent diabetics after 1 week of supplementation with 16 mg of biotin  daily (15). Several mechanisms could explain the glucose-lowering effect of  biotin. As a cofactor of enzymes required for fatty acid synthesis, biotin may  increase the utilization of glucose to synthesize fats. Biotin has been found to  stimulate glucokinase, an enzyme in the liver, resulting in increased synthesis  of glycogen, the storage form of glucose. Biotin has also been found to  stimulate the secretion of insulin in the pancreas of rats, which also has the  effect of lowering blood glucose (16). An effect on cellular glucose (GLUT)  transporters is also currently under investigation. Presently, studies of the  effect of supplemental biotin on blood glucose levels in humans are extremely  limited, but they highlight the need for further research

CABG… That is the procedure…Coronary Artery Bypass Grafting…..hence the  “cabbage” word. It has taken me a full year…but I have gotten my chol down to  123 with half a Zetia(5mg) and .5 Zocor(every third day). I have my oatmeal with  flax every day and a powdered mix called BOIS LIFE….a fiber plus mix. I never  thought it possible…but I did it. I have heard of others doing the same…in  that I mean NO statins and good chol numbers. It just took me a bit longer than  most. Read and explore your options. Good Luck. Please and Thanx, Bogie

Total Cholesterol 229  LD 150  hdl 46  tri 175    Doctor prescribed 20 mg of Lipitor but I am relyuctant to stArt this  drug at age 41.  I saw X presiden tCLinton took statins got levels down  then needed a “cabbage”…..are these drugs safe?  Are they good or bad?

Bilhar and all – I got my results today for the coratid artery test -    -They found not a trace of build up.  I am good to go in that area  for now anyway – Thanks for the heads up bilhar your the greatest.    YIKES!  I have bruises all over me.  I had my elbow on my leg last  night reading the computer and when I woke up this morning I had a  bruise like you would not believe. I know what this is from but how  weird.    Oh by the way the little pains you might feel in your chest from  time to time is the artery healing up for us stent folks.  The rehab  nurse told me that when they went in there to place the stent of  course it caused some damage to the artery and it is natural to  experience some pain as that artery heals.    The doc told me today that if a person can get thier good  cholesterol 50 or above and the bad 70 or below that scientist have  proved that your body actually starts getting rid of some of the  plaque that is already formed in your arteries – How cool.  I have a  long way to go on that Cholesterol but at least I know now that  there is some hope.    Also for those of you, like me that are stupid enough to still be  smoking, the rehab nurses say that it is vital to take a Multi  Vitamin everyday they say that smoking takes alot out of you and you  should try to help in any little way you can to put some of that  back and the vitamins do help in that area.  So guess what I am  doing     I hope all is well with everyone.

I experience a slight chest tightness from time to time and am  wondering if this is necessarily cardiac related?  Last year I reported  this to my dr and she had me do a stress test and the nuclear test,  both of which didn’t show any problems.    Still intermitently by days I experience slight pressure from time to  time on the left side of my chest near the bottom of the left pectorial  muscle.  This discomfort/pressure usually occurs after I have a  stressfull moment or have gas.    I notice it more when I am sitting still which makes me suspect gas.    I am wondering if anyone else experieces this and hoping that it  doesn’t always indicate a cardio event.    Thank you for your time

Well, I am glad to see the up tick in email in the forum.    I use the information and others experiences to do help me through the day.  Sometimes they are very sad and I thank god that he has spared me those issues.  There are times I read a post and want to respond but can’t find the correct  words that will brighten that persons day. I am sure that we all just wish we  could put a smile on their faces.    I just felt that maybe if I would write something to everyone it might help.    Hang in there! Fight the good fight! Chin up chest out and smile we have a  full day in front of us.    Anything other than that is not an option!!!!!!!    God bless you all,    Dennis